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		<title>By: hemasrivatsav</title>
		<link>http://benramsey.com/archives/technical-vocabulary-and-grammar/comment-page-1/#comment-3017</link>
		<dc:creator>hemasrivatsav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am confused about the use of preposition before an operating system.
should it be on or in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confused about the use of preposition before an operating system.<br />
should it be on or in?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are absolutely correct about collective nouns. Either the plural or singular can be used depending on whether you are refering to it as a single thing or a group of individual things. 

As for &quot;Then delete a line from the file by typing dd,&quot; it would probably be better to just rewrite it as &quot;Then type &#039;dd&#039; to delete a line from the file.&quot; It is simpler and you don&#039;t need to worry about quotes falling at the end of the line. 

I find it a little odd to belittle inexperienced users with &quot;Hard Drive != Computer&quot; or &quot;PC != Windows.&quot; It is rarely unclear what they mean. I am sure I have said similar misnomers to doctors, plumbers, etc. who just took it in stride. 

Finally I still don&#039;t get &quot;Orientated != Oriented&quot; and &quot;Depreciated != Deprecated.&quot; Orientated and oriented mean the same thing -- I believe oriented is the base word, but English and American usage probably vary. 

Depreciated and deprecated are a strange pair. Depreciated means to lessen the value of something. Deprecated means to belittle or disapprove of. What&#039;s worse they have come to mean the same thing over time. So when a feature is left in software but its usage is discouraged -- is that lessening the value of or disapproving of? You got me?

But the bottom line is that for all the irritation expressed, I doubt there any lack of understanding with any of these usages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely correct about collective nouns. Either the plural or singular can be used depending on whether you are refering to it as a single thing or a group of individual things. </p>
<p>As for &#8220;Then delete a line from the file by typing dd,&#8221; it would probably be better to just rewrite it as &#8220;Then type &#8216;dd&#8217; to delete a line from the file.&#8221; It is simpler and you don&#8217;t need to worry about quotes falling at the end of the line. </p>
<p>I find it a little odd to belittle inexperienced users with &#8220;Hard Drive != Computer&#8221; or &#8220;PC != Windows.&#8221; It is rarely unclear what they mean. I am sure I have said similar misnomers to doctors, plumbers, etc. who just took it in stride. </p>
<p>Finally I still don&#8217;t get &#8220;Orientated != Oriented&#8221; and &#8220;Depreciated != Deprecated.&#8221; Orientated and oriented mean the same thing&#8212;I believe oriented is the base word, but English and American usage probably vary. </p>
<p>Depreciated and deprecated are a strange pair. Depreciated means to lessen the value of something. Deprecated means to belittle or disapprove of. What&#8217;s worse they have come to mean the same thing over time. So when a feature is left in software but its usage is discouraged&#8212;is that lessening the value of or disapproving of? You got me?</p>
<p>But the bottom line is that for all the irritation expressed, I doubt there any lack of understanding with any of these usages.</p>
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		<title>By: Vidyut Luther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vidyut Luther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing up the PC v Mac debate. Lately, with all the hoopla about Apple switching to intel, and then the ad about PCs prior to the intel iMac doing boring things...it really infuriates me. PC = Personal Computer (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=PC) even try m-w.com.

The mac mini, is a PC by Apple. So is the iMac, the Powerbook, the Macbook Pro, and my wife&#039;s eMachines m6809. 

While we&#039;re at it.. let&#039;s not get into the brouahaha about the intel dual core chips, which lose every benchmark compared to the AMD dual core offerings. Yet, everyone is excited about OS X on the intel. I&#039;d like to see it on an AMD X2 damnit!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing up the PC v Mac debate. Lately, with all the hoopla about Apple switching to intel, and then the ad about PCs prior to the intel iMac doing boring things&#8230;it really infuriates me. PC = Personal Computer (<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=PC" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=PC</a>) even try m-w.com.</p>
<p>The mac mini, is a PC by Apple. So is the iMac, the Powerbook, the Macbook Pro, and my wife&#8217;s eMachines m6809. </p>
<p>While we&#8217;re at it.. let&#8217;s not get into the brouahaha about the intel dual core chips, which lose every benchmark compared to the AMD dual core offerings. Yet, everyone is excited about OS X on the intel. I&#8217;d like to see it on an AMD X2 damnit!.</p>
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		<title>By: yarcles</title>
		<link>http://benramsey.com/archives/technical-vocabulary-and-grammar/comment-page-1/#comment-2933</link>
		<dc:creator>yarcles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what do you call a computer that runs on operating systems that are not &quot;Windows OR Macintosh operating systems&quot; ? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what do you call a computer that runs on operating systems that are not &#8220;Windows OR Macintosh operating systems&#8221; ? <img src='http://benramsey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob...</title>
		<link>http://benramsey.com/archives/technical-vocabulary-and-grammar/comment-page-1/#comment-2929</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst, I see your point about PC, it was also the trade name used by IBM for their 8088 computer and when that was cloned the term &quot;PC compatible&quot; was used to mean that the computer was compatible with the IBM PC computer. With the way Windows started as a DOS shell, I can see how PC came to mean a desktop computer running Windows.

Regarding quotation marks, in the UK, we put the full stop after the closing quotation mark, unless the text in the quotation is a full sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst, I see your point about PC, it was also the trade name used by IBM for their 8088 computer and when that was cloned the term &#8220;PC compatible&#8221; was used to mean that the computer was compatible with the IBM PC computer. With the way Windows started as a DOS shell, I can see how PC came to mean a desktop computer running Windows.</p>
<p>Regarding quotation marks, in the UK, we put the full stop after the closing quotation mark, unless the text in the quotation is a full sentence.</p>
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